Comments on: Obesity in Australia | Governments Quick Fix http://brodhe.com/blog/2009/06/02/obesity-in-australia-governments-quick-fix/ eklectic thoughts Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:50:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: will http://brodhe.com/blog/2009/06/02/obesity-in-australia-governments-quick-fix/comment-page-1/#comment-4759 will Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:40:47 +0000 http://brodhe.com/?p=296#comment-4759 I am a morbidly obese diabetic.I have a lot to live for great friends good job loving family.I have tried many ways to loose weight,works for a while then back it comes.Much research shows a correlation between lap banding and the cessation of diabetes.The government is willing to provided a bonus to my primary care and to pickup the bill for allied health care,why not offer low or no interest loans to those who whish to have the procedure done.Surely this will save untold amounts of money and free up hospital/doctor space for those who dont have such an option. Come on Canberra you are happy spend the money how about trying to save some I am a morbidly obese diabetic.I have a lot to live for great friends good job loving family.I have tried many ways to loose weight,works for a while then back it comes.Much research shows a correlation between lap banding and the cessation of diabetes.The government is willing to provided a bonus to my primary care and to pickup the bill for allied health care,why not offer low or no interest loans to those who whish to have the procedure done.Surely this will save untold amounts of money and free up hospital/doctor space for those who dont have such an option. Come on Canberra you are happy spend the money how about trying to save some

]]> By: Bridgette http://brodhe.com/blog/2009/06/02/obesity-in-australia-governments-quick-fix/comment-page-1/#comment-3994 Bridgette Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:25:45 +0000 http://brodhe.com/?p=296#comment-3994 Obesity and diabetes is a growing problems nowadays. It is caused by todays lifestyle which does not involve lots amount of exercise. Most people are just happy sitting in their office chair and they do not even want to sweat. Obesity and diabetes is a growing problems nowadays. It is caused by todays lifestyle which does not involve lots amount of exercise. Most people are just happy sitting in their office chair and they do not even want to sweat.

]]> By: Caramoan8 http://brodhe.com/blog/2009/06/02/obesity-in-australia-governments-quick-fix/comment-page-1/#comment-3945 Caramoan8 Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:42:24 +0000 http://brodhe.com/?p=296#comment-3945 The only way you can manage obesity is throught Proper Diet and lots of exercise. The human body is designed for work so we should always get some form of physical exercise to stay fit. ` The only way you can manage obesity is throught Proper Diet and lots of exercise. The human body is designed for work so we should always get some form of physical exercise to stay fit.
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]]> By: Doc http://brodhe.com/blog/2009/06/02/obesity-in-australia-governments-quick-fix/comment-page-1/#comment-3896 Doc Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:26:40 +0000 http://brodhe.com/?p=296#comment-3896 Medical Perspective. 1. @arka - While lap banding is indeed, only treating the symptoms of obesity - it's the symptoms that are going to kill a person, so it is imperative that this is controlled by whatever means necessary to keep someone alive long enough to help target the underlying cause. Same principle goes for even the simplest things like having an infection (control the pain/fever etc, then bust the bug). Parliament are probably doing the best they can to reduce the IMMEDIATE morbidity and mortality from obesity. 2. @arka - Probably unfair (and slightly offensive) to say that psychologist and social workers aren't interested in helping people with obesity. These people train long and hard for their qualifications and are interested enough to devote their entire career life to helping people with their problems. 3. Lap banding will only have people lose aroung 15% - 25% of their body mass. This is not the be all and end all obesity cure. 25% of 250 kg is still going to keep someone well above the morbidly obese line, but this is at least something to help people see how much their quality of life can improve with weight loss, to help motivate them to make some progressive lifestyle changes. Medical Perspective.

1. @arka – While lap banding is indeed, only treating the symptoms of obesity – it’s the symptoms that are going to kill a person, so it is imperative that this is controlled by whatever means necessary to keep someone alive long enough to help target the underlying cause. Same principle goes for even the simplest things like having an infection (control the pain/fever etc, then bust the bug). Parliament are probably doing the best they can to reduce the IMMEDIATE morbidity and mortality from obesity.

2. @arka – Probably unfair (and slightly offensive) to say that psychologist and social workers aren’t interested in helping people with obesity. These people train long and hard for their qualifications and are interested enough to devote their entire career life to helping people with their problems.

3. Lap banding will only have people lose aroung 15% – 25% of their body mass. This is not the be all and end all obesity cure. 25% of 250 kg is still going to keep someone well above the morbidly obese line, but this is at least something to help people see how much their quality of life can improve with weight loss, to help motivate them to make some progressive lifestyle changes.

]]> By: Inconversible Thoughts - my thoughts- unleashed http://brodhe.com/blog/2009/06/02/obesity-in-australia-governments-quick-fix/comment-page-1/#comment-3887 Inconversible Thoughts - my thoughts- unleashed Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:31:20 +0000 http://brodhe.com/?p=296#comment-3887 [...] “Lap Banding” which takes them to this post [...] [...] “Lap Banding” which takes them to this post [...]

]]> By: arka http://brodhe.com/blog/2009/06/02/obesity-in-australia-governments-quick-fix/comment-page-1/#comment-386 arka Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:54:49 +0000 http://brodhe.com/?p=296#comment-386 Healthcare perspective. For arguments sake, lets say obesity is an illness. One of the problems I have with this article and recommendation to parliament is that the medical team is not treating the cause of a person's illness, they are treating the symptoms. Simply, their increased weight. Many, if not all, obese people (BMI >30) have a psychological component to their obesity. Whether or not they will admit it or recognise it, another issue to contend. What they really need is a government funded psychological debriefing and some 'life' coaching, but the psychologist and social work teams arent interested in that. We'll just readmit you next week! Healthcare perspective.

For arguments sake, lets say obesity is an illness.

One of the problems I have with this article and recommendation to parliament is that the medical team is not treating the cause of a person’s illness, they are treating the symptoms. Simply, their increased weight.

Many, if not all, obese people (BMI >30) have a psychological component to their obesity. Whether or not they will admit it or recognise it, another issue to contend.

What they really need is a government funded psychological debriefing and some ‘life’ coaching, but the psychologist and social work teams arent interested in that. We’ll just readmit you next week!

]]> By: James http://brodhe.com/blog/2009/06/02/obesity-in-australia-governments-quick-fix/comment-page-1/#comment-127 James Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:55:23 +0000 http://brodhe.com/?p=296#comment-127 Unfortunately at times the lap band surgery is the last and only resort. It may not always be the best option, but there are cases when the person that needs to lose weight doesn't have another choice. Example; my grandfather. Because he has major back problems, a hip problem, no abdominal wall (due to three strangulated hernia's that went gangrenous) he can not walk nor exercise to lose the weight that's been gained due to his lack of abdominal wall. He wants to have the lap-ban done, but the doctors don't want to risk it - he's had fifteen operations so it's not good for him if he gets another one. But, if he were to lose weight, this would be his only option. And I've seen the results it has done for a lot of people. It has to be better than stomach-stapling. James. http://hes-electric.blogspot.com Unfortunately at times the lap band surgery is the last and only resort. It may not always be the best option, but there are cases when the person that needs to lose weight doesn’t have another choice.

Example; my grandfather. Because he has major back problems, a hip problem, no abdominal wall (due to three strangulated hernia’s that went gangrenous) he can not walk nor exercise to lose the weight that’s been gained due to his lack of abdominal wall.
He wants to have the lap-ban done, but the doctors don’t want to risk it – he’s had fifteen operations so it’s not good for him if he gets another one.

But, if he were to lose weight, this would be his only option. And I’ve seen the results it has done for a lot of people.

It has to be better than stomach-stapling.

James.
http://hes-electric.blogspot.com

]]> By: Garrett Jones http://brodhe.com/blog/2009/06/02/obesity-in-australia-governments-quick-fix/comment-page-1/#comment-123 Garrett Jones Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:13:54 +0000 http://brodhe.com/?p=296#comment-123 Brodhe, Great Article, however, I should point out to you that if there was even a 25% reduction in cases of heart disease and diabetes, that alone would pay for the lap-band surgeries to be performed. As to the psychological impact, all patients that wish to receive a subsidised lap-band operation should be subject to seeing a psychologist before and after surgery. Thanks for keeping us informed Garrett http://garrettstechnologyassist.com Brodhe,
Great Article, however, I should point out to you that if there was even a 25% reduction in cases of heart disease and diabetes, that alone would pay for the lap-band surgeries to be performed. As to the psychological impact, all patients that wish to receive a subsidised lap-band operation should be subject to seeing a psychologist before and after surgery.
Thanks for keeping us informed
Garrett
http://garrettstechnologyassist.com

]]> By: David http://brodhe.com/blog/2009/06/02/obesity-in-australia-governments-quick-fix/comment-page-1/#comment-114 David Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:47:45 +0000 http://brodhe.com/?p=296#comment-114 I am amused that the banner ad came up for "The Gabriel Method: lose weight without dieting" I am amused that the banner ad came up for
“The Gabriel Method: lose weight without dieting”

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